維基百科:可視化編輯器/反饋/存檔
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- 主頁(或在MediaWiki)
- 反饋(或在MediaWiki)
- 沙盒(不要求賬戶)
- 即時統計
- Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
按用戶類型,以所有編輯的百分比計數 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
按用戶類型,以所有按用戶類型區分的 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
以所有編輯的百分比計數 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
編輯次數的絕對值 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
按用戶類型區分的編輯次數的絕對值 - Daily unique editors by UI
按用戶類型 - Hourly reverted revisions
按回復類型 - (所有指示牌)
本頁為Wikipedia:可視化編輯器的反饋頁面。用戶在編輯界面提交的反饋會加入到該頁的最底端。由於軟件不跟隨重定向,請不要移動本頁。
反饋應當跟隨重定向
反饋提交應當跟隨重定向 Ben.mq 2013年4月26日 (五) 12:35 (UTC)
複查您的更改
編輯送出時,左上字樣應為顯示「複查您的更改」,錯誤的顯示為「複查您的更高」。另外,它沒有因為我是繁體用戶而顯示繁體字--Jasonzhuocn(留言) 2013年4月26日 (五) 15:52 (UTC)
- 翻譯已經完成,請等待同步。--Ben.mq 2013年4月27日 (六) 04:14 (UTC)
無法啟用?
已在參數設置中選中複選框,但貌似看不到可視化編輯的連結?--廣雅 范★ 2013年4月27日 (六) 10:29 (UTC)
- 嘗試清空本地緩存。在主條目和用戶名字空間會出現編輯和編輯原始碼兩個按鈕。--Ben.mq 2013年4月27日 (六) 10:42 (UTC)
- 找不到目標。在小工具中開啟了「查看原始碼」選項會影響此工具麼?--廣雅 范★ 2013年4月28日 (日) 01:50 (UTC)
工具欄有點兒不便
能不能允許工具欄設置成可以浮動於網頁頂端,這樣用起來會方便些。 ──★── 2013年4月28日 (日) 16:15 (UTC)
- 現在不是嗎?-HW(論 獻) 2013年5月1日 (三) 06:24 (UTC)
- 只有Internet Explorer中才有......--Zhangjintao(留言)(檢查我的貢獻) 2013年5月6日 (一) 08:24 (UTC)
有一些BUG
- 有時候在條目和用戶頁上方不會出現(出現的編輯是編輯原始碼)
- 有時在Wikipedia名字空間卻可以編輯(不是說只能在條目和用戶頁使用的嘛)
- 有時載入頁面會出現如圖提示
- 光標懸停在上方的編輯原始碼出現的提示為英文
- 選擇標題欄里竟然有1級標題誒, 囧rz……,原始碼編輯器最大也就二級目錄
目前就發現這些--Yanteng3議‧獻‧郵 2013年5月1日 (三) 11:10 (UTC)
- 第一個的話,刷新緩存就可以了。第二個和第三個我沒有發現,其中第二個這樣不是更好嗎?第四個是還沒翻譯吧…第五個應該沒什麼關係,反正原本就有1級標題的功能了。-多啦A夢220‧284 2013年5月1日 (三) 16:44 (UTC)
- (:)回應1: 請更新快取;2,3: 無法重現;4: 等待translatewiki翻譯套用至本地;5: 1級標題本身就是MediaWiki的功能,而且這個編輯器不是只設計給維基百科用的。-HW(論 獻) 2013年5月3日 (五) 15:06 (UTC)
簡繁轉換
那些簡繁轉換那個不能隱藏啊。。。。。 Zhangjintao(留言)(檢查我的貢獻) 2013年5月5日 (日) 11:50 (UTC)
- bugzilla:47913, bugzilla:41716--HW(論 獻) 2013年5月11日 (六) 04:27 (UTC)
- 能不能在工具欄裏面建立一個連結來管理?-- ──★── 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:29 (UTC)
- 可以,但是需要支持處理繁簡轉換。--Fantasticfears(留言+) 2013年9月20日 (五) 05:29 (UTC)
- 能不能在工具欄裏面建立一個連結來管理?-- ──★── 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:29 (UTC)
用詞問題
為什麼可視化編輯器裏面用的叫「複查您的更高」「保存您的更高」,這是什麼意思?「更改」嗎?--Techyan(留言) 2013年5月18日 (六) 05:55 (UTC)
- 錯誤翻譯,等待更新。-HW(論 獻) 2013年5月19日 (日) 09:38 (UTC)
- 已修復--HW(論 獻) 2013年6月19日 (三) 03:27 (UTC)
可視化編輯器
這個編輯器過於簡單……而且有的時候會莫名出現<nowiki>表示。 ——死亡之翼→→有事點這兒 2013年5月31日 (五) 04:44 (UTC)
希望能可視化編輯能增加表格功能
表格很常用 Kklxzxc(留言) 2013年6月15日 (六) 12:46 (UTC)
- mw:VisualEditor/Table editor--HW(論 獻) 2013年6月19日 (三) 03:27 (UTC)
- 不知道能不能先做成從別的source可複製入wp 平常做表格一般先用excel打個草稿 Kuristina | Talk 2013年7月17日 (三) 10:00 (UTC)
插入媒體文件時出錯
如我做的測試:User:Zhangjintao Zhangjintao(留言)(檢查我的貢獻) 2013年6月18日 (二) 08:41 (UTC)
字號有問題
使用可視化編輯器以後字號變小 ──★── 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:18 (UTC)
- 字號本來就是這麼少的。在閱讀模式,字號較大是因為小工具中預設啟用的「小字號」工具。-HW(論 獻 動員令) 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:21 (UTC)
- 樓上,是「大字體」,講反了。-多啦A夢中文維基百科條目數‧突破70萬! 2013年6月28日 (五) 15:46 (UTC)
已修復. Liangent(留言) 2013年6月30日 (日) 12:51 (UTC)
- 要是能和 Special:Preferences 使用相同的字號配置就更好。
編輯超時
有時用戶可能編輯條目一半時還沒保存就改做別的事情,比如吃飯、外出、看其他網站等。回來再保存時,編輯超時就會出現錯誤,無法保存。估計是因為為了防止破壞而設立的key的實效有限。希望此事可以有一個刷新按鈕,不丟失更改的情況下允許key的更新,以保存更改。--維基小霸王(留言) 2013年7月3日 (三) 13:03 (UTC)
中文輸入時有一小問題
我用可視化編輯器編輯時,用QQ 雲輸入法做有串或無串行表時打不了字。 ──★── 2013年7月24日 (三) 10:10 (UTC)
一個編輯問題
編輯模板內容時還修改了圖片的屬性....
原始版本在這裏 https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zhangjintao/MainPage&action=history
Zhangjintao(留言)(检查我的贡献) 2013年7月24日 (三) 12:55 (UTC)
- 已報告至Bugzilla。bugzilla:51963。-HW(論 獻 動員令) 2013年7月24日 (三) 13:07 (UTC)
關於編輯摘要
編輯摘要上面的一行字單擊後沒有用... Zhangjintao(留言)(請關注維基百科強制加密登錄的最新動態!) 2013年8月14日 (三) 08:25 (UTC)
- +1--印天胤の留言と書信 2013年8月28日 (三) 07:13 (UTC)
- 找Liangent. --HW(論 獻 動員令) 2013年8月28日 (三) 14:13 (UTC)
無法建立重定向
支持的功能明顯不足,重定向按鈕應該有吧。 印天胤の留言と書信 2013年8月25日 (日) 13:08 (UTC)
不能換行
換行就會清空當前行,然後換成新的一行。 印天胤の留言と書信 2013年8月28日 (三) 07:07 (UTC)
- 無法重現--HW(論 獻 動員令) 2013年8月28日 (三) 14:27 (UTC)
- 我也是,而且有時還會莫名其妙的變成棋子符號(♙)。-- ──★── 2013年9月10日 (二) 16:02 (UTC)
如何啟用?
我開啟了可視化編輯器之後,可是只看見了「編輯原始碼」,
並沒有看見「編輯」,這是怎麼回事?--快樂一家(留言) 2013年8月29日 (四) 13:46 (UTC)
註明一下:我使用的瀏覽器是IE10,不是可以支持的嗎?--快樂一家(留言) 2013年10月6日 (日) 14:07 (UTC)
- 在主條目和用戶名字空間才會出現,確認一下?--Fantasticfears(留言) 2013年10月8日 (二) 05:12 (UTC)
添加信息的時候很容易好好的失去原有的信息
希望能夠解決 快樂一家(留言) 2013年9月7日 (六) 11:41 (UTC)
希望可視化編輯器能與 Wikitext 編輯器整合
希望基金會能把可視化編輯器與 Wikitext 編輯器整合起來,讓用戶在編輯過程中能同時使用這兩種編輯器,而不會發生衝突。就是說,用戶使用可視化編輯器以後點擊「編輯原始碼」就能把之前編輯過的原始碼在 Wikitext 編輯器修改,反過來用戶編輯原始碼以後可以直接切換到可視化編輯器中繼續編輯,而不是彈出一個是否離開頁面的提問。這樣可以彌補兩種編輯器的不足之處,大大方便編者。 ──★── 2013年9月8日 (日) 09:41 (UTC)
集中精力編輯
能否點擊段落的編輯時,只顯示這一段的內容。 這樣更有利於集中精力編輯,且更不易出錯及方便。 Cylbf2(留言) 2013年10月3日 (四) 14:26 (UTC)
- 技術上不太好做(做不到)--Fantasticfears(留言) 2013年10月4日 (五) 12:00 (UTC)
Opera 17 不支持可視化編輯器?
我用Opera17編輯時彈出通知說不支持當前的瀏覽器。。。 Zhangjintao(留言) 2013年11月7日 (四) 04:56 (UTC)
編輯摘要
點了自動增加編輯摘要的連結,結果跳到另一頁。 byfserag(留言) 2013年11月22日 (五) 23:18 (UTC)
智能注音輸入法的卡字問題回報
您好,使用智能注音輸入法打字的時候,在還沒選好字之前就會不斷有不是所選字被輸入到編輯區。我是使用OS 10.6.8的作業環境,chrome。輸入法是Yahoo奇摩輸入法1.1。--上官(留言) 2013年11月25日 (一) 10:00 (UTC)
連結問題
當為一段文字加上連結之後,在其後面繼續輸入文字時新輸入的文字也會被自動加上連結,想要消除多餘的連結只能把整段的連結都取消掉然後重新設置,很麻煩。 侧耳倾听 2013年12月14日 (六) 04:46 (UTC)
中文輸入Bug
當我在輸入中文時自始至終都會出現一個Bug,每當我摁下一個鍵(包括Backspace等)時,輸入法中的首選項就會被輸入但是輸入的框並不會消失,這樣最後打好一個詞組甚至每一個字都要刪去後面很多個字,造成很大的麻煩。 我的 作業系統:Ubuntu 13.10 'Saucy' 桌面環境:Unity 瀏覽器:Chromium 31 輸入法:Fcitx下的Google拼音 ps:這是我第四次提交這個報告,前三次提交花了很久然後告訴我api沒有響應 我只是一個中學生~~~(留言) 2013年12月21日 (六) 13:53 (UTC)
哇,我也有這種狀況。-Zhangjintao(留言) 2014年2月11日 (二) 23:12 (UTC)
超連結功能大小寫敏感
如輸入Playstation無法找到PlayStation,有點麻煩 L19980623(留言) 2013年12月27日 (五) 12:09 (UTC)
求翻譯
剛才發現編輯器的工具欄多出了「Insert」按鈕,求翻譯。 ──★── 2013年12月27日 (五) 14:11 (UTC)
簡體與繁體
在編輯簡體中文文本時,會出現一些繁體字。如編輯「王毅」的簡體頁,「中華人民共和國」是用繁體書寫。 謝子民(留言) 2014年1月12日 (日) 02:13 (UTC)
- 舊版編輯器此問題已存在,且未來亦未有計劃解決?-HW(論 獻 動員令) 2014年1月13日 (一) 08:02 (UTC)
Difficult use
It is very difficult use Rex Sim Suen Lin(留言) 2014年4月2日 (三) 13:11 (UTC)
字號太小了
開了可視化編輯器以後正文字號太小(看這裏),建議改成 14px。--⚞★⚟ 2014年4月16日 (三) 15:30 (UTC)
插入公式的缺陷
編輯公式時無法輸入「>」,提示解析失敗(語法錯誤),顯示為「>」。 Scotcn(留言) 2014年6月20日 (五) 14:12 (UTC)
Updates related to VisualEditor
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Hi, everybody. This is a reminder that we invite you to discuss VisualEditor's recent development and plans ahead during the next office hours with James Forrester (Product Manager):
If you are not able to attend but have a question for James, you can leave your question at mediawiki.org or on my talk page by the day before, and I will try to get a response. We plan to continue these monthly sessions as long as there is community interest, and to announce them through the VisualEditor global newsletter as well (please subscribe your talk page there to get the latest news about the software).
Most of the VisualEditor team will be at Wikimania in London in August! You'll be able to meet the developers during the Hackaton or at the following sessions:
- VisualEditor — helping users edit more easily, Saturday, August 9;
- VisualEditor — engineering against the odds, Sunday, August 10.
WMF community liaisons will share a booth with community advocates at the Community Village and look forward to talking to you there. Thanks for your attention! --User:Elitre (WMF) 2014年7月31日 (四) 17:06 (UTC)
VisualEditor global newsletter—July and August 2014
The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
- Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
- You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
- All references and footnotes (
<ref>
tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "插入" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "插入" menu. - When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
- All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
- The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
- The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.
Looking ahead
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.
Feedback opportunities
The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30. There is a VisualEditor Translation Sprint going on during Wikimania; whether you're in London or not, any contributions are welcome!
Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).
If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 2014年8月9日 (六) 14:40 (UTC)
TemplateData editor soon available on this Wikipedia
Hello, my apologies for writing this announcement in English. A tool for editing TemplateData will be deployed to this wiki on Thursday, 9 October. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation (or to change it). You will be able to use it by editing the template's documentation page and clicking the 編輯模板資料 button at the top. You can test the TemplateData editor now in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Please see more detailed instructions at Mediawiki.org (those can be translated there, and also imported on this wiki later if you need to). Don't hesitate to contact me if you need further information. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2014年10月7日 (二) 11:32 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #8—2014
Since the last newsletter, the Editing team has reduced technical debt, simplified some workflows for template and citation editing, made major progress on Internet Explorer support, and fixed over 125 bugs and requests. Several performance improvements were made, especially to the system around re-using references and reference lists. Weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org.
There were three issues that required urgent fixes: a deployment error that meant that many buttons didn't work correctly (bugs 69856 and 69864), a problem with edit conflicts that left the editor with nowhere to go (bug 69150), and a problem in Internet Explorer 11 that replaced some categories with a link to the system message MediaWiki:Badtitletext (bug 70894) when you saved. The developers apologize for the disruption, and thank the people who reported these problems quickly.
Increased support for devices and browsers
Internet Explorer 10 and 11 users now have access to VisualEditor. This means that about 5% of Wikimedia's users will now get an "Edit" tab alongside the existing "Edit source" tab. Support for Internet Explorer 9 is planned for the future.
Tablet users browsing the site's mobile mode now have the option of using a mobile-specific form of VisualEditor. More editing tools, and availability of VisualEditor on smartphones, is planned for the future. The mobile version of VisualEditor was tweaked to show the context menu for citations instead of basic references (bug 68897). A bug that broke the editor in iOS was corrected and released early (bug 68949). For mobile tablet users, three bugs related to scrolling were fixed (bug 66697, bug 68828, bug 69630). You can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia from your tablet by clicking on the cog in the top-right when editing a page and choosing which editor to use.
模板數據編輯器
The tool for editing TemplateData has been deployed to 30 more Wikipedias this week. Other Wikipedias and some other projects may receive access next month. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template page or a subpage, and then click the "編輯模板資料" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
其他更改
Several interface messages and labels were changed to be simpler, clearer, or shorter, based on feedback from translators and editors. The formatting of dialogs was changed, and more changes to the appearance will be coming soon, when VisualEditor implements the new MediaWiki theme from Design. (A preview of the theme is available on Labs for developers.) The team also made some improvements for users of the Monobook skin that improved the size of text in toolbars and fixed selections that overlapped menus.
VisualEditor-MediaWiki now supplies the mw-redirect
and mw-disambig
class on links to redirects and disambiguation pages, so that user gadgets that colour in these types of links can be created.
Templates' fields can be marked as 'required
' in TemplateData. If a parameter is marked as required, then you cannot delete that field when you add a new template or edit an existing one (bug 60358).
Language support improved by making annotations use bi-directional isolation (so they display correctly with cursoring behaviour as expected) and by fixing a bug that crashed VisualEditor when trying to edit a page with a dir
attribute but no lang
set (bug 69955).
Looking ahead
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon, perhaps in late October.
The team is also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables, and early work for this may appear within the month. Please comment on the design at Mediawiki.org.
In the future, real-time collaborative editing may be possible in VisualEditor. Some early preparatory work for this was recently done.
支持您的wiki
At Wikimania, several developers gave presentations about VisualEditor. A translation sprint focused on improving access to VisualEditor was supported by many people. Deryck Chan was the top translator. Special honors also go to संजीव कुमार (Sanjeev Kumar), Robby, Takot, Bachounda, Bjankuloski06 and Ата. A summary of the work achieved by the translation community is available. Thank you all for your work.
This was the first translatable VisualEditor newsletter, so thanks to everybody who made this possible! If it hasn't been delivered in your language, and you'd like to help with translations in the future, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre (WMF), so that you will be notified when the next issue is due.
VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
Please join the office hours on Saturday, 18 October 2014 at 18:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Africa and Europe) and on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC on IRC.
Give feedback on VisualEditor at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF)
2014年10月13日 (一) 09:49 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #9—2014
您知道麼?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.
最近改進
Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in them was just introduced to Wikipedias. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be added later.
To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus are now hidden behind a "更多" item, such as "底線" in the styling menu.
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias this week, and the following week at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar menus are now shown in the menus.
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience/Design group. The appearance of dialog boxes has already changed in the mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. You are welcome to compare the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search engine could not find the page. A link inside a template to a local page that does not exist will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to an error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [2] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
模板數據
The tool for quickly editing TemplateData has been deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool was already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "編輯模板資料" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData to learn more about it. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common value for that parameter. The autovalue can be overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog box in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "建議" or "非必填" in TemplateData instead.
展望
The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide is being updated to add information about editing tables. The translations of the user guide for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.
You can influence VisualEditor's design! Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF)
2014年11月14日 (五) 23:29 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #10—2014
您知道麼?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).
新的改進
Basic support for editing tables is now available. You can add and delete tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan
and colspan
elements, instead of trying to repair them.
You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ^ Ctrl
+F
or ⌘ Cmd
+F
.
You can now create and edit simple <blockquote>
paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "段落" into a "區塊引述".
Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "*
" will make the line a bullet list; "1.
" or "#
" will make it a numbered list; "==
" will make it a section heading; ":
" will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change.
There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[
" for opening the link tool, and "{{
" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ^ Ctrl
+K
to open the link editor, still work.
If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.
您可以再次建立和編輯圖冊作為wiki文字程式碼。
展望
The current VisualEditor design will be replaced with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at mediawiki.org in late December and on other sites in early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)
The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January.
Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.
讓我們一起工作
- 在可視化編輯器反饋頁面分享您的主意並詢問問題。
- 很多語言的用戶指南的翻譯版本已經過時。只有烏克蘭語、葡萄牙語、西班牙語、法語和荷蘭語譯者最近一直在活躍。請幫助改進現有翻譯以幫助使用您說的語言的用戶。
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC.
- File requests for language-appropriate "粗體" and "斜體" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
2014年12月26日 (五) 18:59 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #1—2015
上次新聞以來,編輯團隊修復了很多錯誤,並改進了可視化編輯器的外觀,即將來到的Citoid參考服務,並支持複雜輸入環境的語言。 Status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins.
Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.
新的改進
The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:
- starts a new task, like opening the ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽ dialog: 藍色 ,
- takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation: 綠色 ,
- might remove or lose your work, like removing a link: 紅色 , 或
- is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window: 灰色 .
The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor. (T67815, T73746.) This change fixed a couple of existing bugs and improved usability. (T73077, T73078.)
Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once.(T78234.)
Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedia requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace. (T86688, T87027.) If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
展望
The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.
We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.
讓我們一起工作
- 在可視化編輯器反饋頁面分享您的主意並詢問問題。
- 請幫助完成面向您的語言的用戶指引的翻譯。
- Join the weekly bug triage meetings beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC); information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins, and you can also contact James F. to learn more about this initiative.
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Thursday, 19 February 2015 at 19:00 UTC.
- 在元維基訂閱或取消訂閱。如果您希望幫助翻譯此篇新聞,請訂閱翻譯者電子郵件列表或聯繫我們,因此我們可以通知您下一次期刊何時發佈。感謝!
2015年2月5日 (四) 18:30 (UTC)
可視化編輯器沒有插入原始碼塊功能
我在可視化編輯器找不到能代替源碼編輯中source標籤的按鈕 閃電企鵝 2015年2月10日 (二) 02:52 (UTC)
- 閃電企鵝, hi, can you clarify this request? thanks! --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月12日 (四) 18:48 (UTC)
- Elitre (WMF), thanks for noticing it. I was editing an page that have Source Code with Visual Editor. I wanna write it into a source block.(<source lang="xxx"></source>) But I cannot find any button can do it! So I have to save the editing and go to sourcecode editor. --閃電企鵝 2015年3月22日 (日) 08:06 (UTC)
- 閃電企鵝, hi again. So you can not use the source tag, but you can use the <code> one. You can find it among the formatting options (see here, you need to expand the menu to find the "computer code" option). By the way, you don't need to save to switch to the wikitext editor: when you are in VE, just click on the Edit source tab and you will be prompted to switch - you can retain changes if you want. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 20:56 (UTC)
- Elitre (WMF), thx. I've found it. --閃電企鵝 2015年3月28日 (六) 10:57 (UTC)
- 閃電企鵝, hi again. So you can not use the source tag, but you can use the <code> one. You can find it among the formatting options (see here, you need to expand the menu to find the "computer code" option). By the way, you don't need to save to switch to the wikitext editor: when you are in VE, just click on the Edit source tab and you will be prompted to switch - you can retain changes if you want. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 20:56 (UTC)
- Elitre (WMF), thanks for noticing it. I was editing an page that have Source Code with Visual Editor. I wanna write it into a source block.(<source lang="xxx"></source>) But I cannot find any button can do it! So I have to save the editing and go to sourcecode editor. --閃電企鵝 2015年3月22日 (日) 08:06 (UTC)
希望可以加入編輯摘要和符號表
希望可以如下加入編輯摘要(「選擇:」那個): 和編輯原始碼時最下方的符號表。--ひろし(留言) 2015年3月21日 (六) 11:16 (UTC)
- 這個編輯摘要以前有過,點選「保存頁面」就能看到,現在不知道怎麽的就沒了,好像是用 {{int:summary}} 生成的。另外這個編輯器本身就有一個符號表,點選工具列上面的「Ω」就會出來,但裏面的符號列表是固定的,比原來的 Wikitext 編輯器少得多,我覺得應該允許管理員往裏面添加擴展的列表。--⚞★⚟ 2015年3月26日 (四) 16:46 (UTC)
- If you need more special characters in the list, just customize it. See instructions at mw:VisualEditor/Special characters. There is a request on Phabricator to make the character inserter available in places like the wikilink or the template inserter. Is your request about using those characters in the edit summary, or is it different? Thank you. --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 21:26 (UTC)
- 如同 User:Great Brightstar 所說的,「Ω」裏面的符號列表是固定的,比原來的 Wikitext 編輯器少得多。裏面的符號不但很少,而且都是一些不怎麼常用的特殊符號。在中文維基百科編輯時,編輯框下方會有一個如下的符號列表:
- If you need more special characters in the list, just customize it. See instructions at mw:VisualEditor/Special characters. There is a request on Phabricator to make the character inserter available in places like the wikilink or the template inserter. Is your request about using those characters in the edit summary, or is it different? Thank you. --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 21:26 (UTC)
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- 這是用 Template:Edittools 生成的,我希望能在 VisualEditor 裏加入以上的常用符號表。--ひろし(留言) 2015年3月29日 (日) 05:43 (UTC)
- 要是能允許管理員自定義就更好。--⚞★⚟ 2015年3月29日 (日) 08:51 (UTC)
- 這是用 Template:Edittools 生成的,我希望能在 VisualEditor 裏加入以上的常用符號表。--ひろし(留言) 2015年3月29日 (日) 05:43 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #2—2015
Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.
The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.
Recent improvements
VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.
The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.
Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.
Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs」). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.
The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.
You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.
The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.
Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.
Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead. (T90734)
Looking ahead
The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.
The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users at the English Wikipedia, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon. (T90666)
Let's work together
- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
- Can you translate from English into any other language? Please check this list to see whether more interface translations are needed for your language. Contact us to get an account if you want to help!
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- File requests for language-appropriate "粗體" and "斜體" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
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2015年4月10日 (五) 19:48 (UTC)
顯示一個警告是什麼
- 用戶代理: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:37.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/37.0
不能打開,亦不能刪除
卝工(留言) 2015年4月29日 (三) 08:46 (UTC)
- 卝工, hello. Could you please tell what is this thing which can not be displayed and cannot be deleted, where can I see it? Thanks! --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年5月4日 (一) 17:57 (UTC)
Elitre (WMF),When I edit the personal User page, using the visual editor, I will see a warning on the top-right, a symbol which is a triangle+! and saying "1個警告"; but I cannot open it and delete it. What is that? --卝工
- 卝工, it is a broken notice. See [3]. Thanks for reporting this! --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年5月19日 (二) 16:48 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #3—2015
你知道嗎?
在上一次電子報之後,編輯團隊已經創建了提供為連結或引用功能的新介面,同時也修正了許多的臭蟲並且改變了一些設計元素。有些臭蟲有影響到以行動設備使用可視化編輯器的用戶。 狀況報告已經貼到了mediawiki.org上頭。四月到六月的工作清單可以在Phabricator上找到。
在英文維基百科已經完成第一期可視化編輯器對新手編輯的效果測試。在這項測試中,一半的新註冊使用者會預設使用可視化編輯器進行編輯,另外一半則否。 這項研究的主要目的是了解哪一群團體更會去編輯並且產出有用、不會被回退的貢獻內容。初步的研究結果將會在本月底發佈於元維基頁面。
近日改進功能
Auto-fill features for citations are available at a few Wikipedias through the citoid service. Citoid takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. If Citoid is enabled on your wiki, then the design of the citation workflow changed during May. All citations are now created inside a single tool. Inside that tool, choose the tab you want (⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-auto⧽, ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-manual⧽, or ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-reuse⧽). The cite button is now labeled with the word "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" rather than a book icon, and the autofill citation dialog now has a more meaningful label, "⧼Citoid-citeFromIDDialog-lookup-button⧽", for the submit button.
The link tool has been redesigned based on feedback from Wikipedia editors and user testing. It now has two separate sections: one for links to articles and one for external links. When you select a link, its pop-up context menu shows the name of the linked page, a thumbnail image from the linked page, Wikidata's description, and appropriate icons for disambiguation pages, redirect pages and empty pages (where applicable). Search results have been reduced to the first five pages. Several bugs were fixed, including a dark highlight that appeared over the first match in the link inspector. (T98085)
The special character inserter in VisualEditor now uses the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki can also create a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Please read the instructions for customizing the list at mediawiki.org. Also, there is now a tooltip to describing each character in the special character inserter. (T70425)
Several improvements have been made to templates. When you search for a template to insert, the list of results now contains descriptions of the templates. The parameter list inside the template dialog now remains open after inserting a parameter from the list, so that users don’t need to click on "⧼visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-add-param⧽" each time they want to add another parameter. (T95696) The team added a new property for TemplateData, "範例", for template parameters. This optional, translatable property will show up when there is text describing how to use that parameter. (T53049)
The design of the main toolbar and several other elements have changed slightly, to be consistent with the MediaWiki theme. In the Vector skin, individual items in the menu are separated visually by pale gray bars. Buttons and menus on the toolbar can now contain both an icon and a text label, rather than just one or the other. This new design feature is being used for the cite button on wikis where the Citoid service is enabled.
The team has released a long-desired improvement to the handling of non-existent images. If a non-existent image is linked in an article, then it is now visible in VisualEditor and can be selected, edited, replaced, or removed.
捲起袖子一起來
- 在可視化編輯器反饋頁面(mw:VisualEditor/Feedback)分享您的點子並詢問問題。
- 每週的任務分流聚會仍然持續對所有志工開放,會議時間通常都是在週三的中午12:00(PDT,太平洋時區)(UTC-7)。想知道怎麼參與聚會,又要如何提報臭蟲,請見任務分流聚頁面(mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings)。 你並不一定得參與聚會才能提報第四季的阻礙臭蟲。你可以在Phabricator站台中「參與」可視化編輯器第四季阻礙計劃(Q4 blocker project)來回報臭蟲。
- 如果您所參與的維基導遊、維基學院、或是其他維基媒體計劃的社群有意預設可視化編輯器作為給站台裏頭所有編輯者的優先選項,歡迎您聯繫James Forrester。
- 如果您想要申請安裝Citoid的自動參考文獻搜集功能到您的維基站台的話,請在Citoid在Phabricator的計劃頁提出申請。申請時也請附上在您的維基站台中最重要的幾種引用模板之模板資料的相關連結。
- 團隊正在計劃在七月進行第二波的可視化編輯器相關「翻譯」工作。請訂閱這個在Phabricator上的任務來得到更多細節與最新消息!請密切注意相關公告。
在元維基頁面進行訂閱、取消訂閱、或改變此新聞寄送位址。如果您希望看到此新聞不同的語言版本,歡迎您一同協助進行翻譯!訂閱譯者郵件列表或直接與我們聯繫,讓我們可以在下一期準備好時通知您,謝謝!
2015年6月13日 (六) 10:44 (UTC)
取消功能
- 用戶代理: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/44.0.2403.125 Safari/537.36
若是對編輯不滿意,則難以取消並推出編輯。
HawkHerman 2015年7月31日 (五) 15:59 (UTC)
- Hello Heshoudong
- Sorry to write in English, but I don't speak Chinese :)
- How did you process to cancel?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年7月31日 (五) 17:54 (UTC)
- Hello Trizek (WMF)
- Good Afternoon.
- Thank you for your reaction.
- (I am Chinese, now in Japan.I am a freshman on Wikipedia,and I have started learning
- anything about Wikipedia to hope that maybe I could share something I could.
- I am trying to try to start something,so I sent this comment about 'cancle' function.)
- I am sorry that I had written in Chinese for I could have written English though my English is very poor,
- and I also made a spell mistake.It wasn't '推出',but '退出',which means 'quit'.
- I couldn't find any 'quit' button, so I click the 'homepage' link to cancle my edit rudely.
- Thanks.Heshoudong
-
- Hello Heshoudong, I think you may be talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470? You can simply click ESC to leave VE at any time, anyway. Also, you can easily switch to the wikitext editor by clicking on its tab. Please let us know what doesn't work for you in VE. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月5日 (三) 15:57 (UTC)
- Hello Elitre (WMF) Thank you very much for you comments.
- Yes, I am talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470 .
- There is not any big thing which doesn't work for me by now.And I hope I can more clearly write any comment on VE or others on wikipedia.I believe VE is very ideal,amazing and convenient to us.Thanks a lot for your work.
- I just think maybe it's better to add a function(like button) by witch we can cancel without saving when we don't want to log any bad record in the history of a page intentionally, then we can restart the edit after a new consideration/investigation.It is right that it's all on T85470.
- Thank you again and Best Wishes. -- Heshoudong(留言)
- Hello Heshoudong, I think you may be talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470? You can simply click ESC to leave VE at any time, anyway. Also, you can easily switch to the wikitext editor by clicking on its tab. Please let us know what doesn't work for you in VE. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月5日 (三) 15:57 (UTC)
About modification of the name of a Link
- 用戶代理: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/44.0.2403.125 Safari/537.36
It seems it's not easy to modify the name of a Link.
For example,in the "概要" part of the page of "東京證券交易所", I tried to modify the name "大證" of the Link大阪證券交易所 to "大阪證券交易所" to make it understood more easily. After I typed into "大阪證券交易所",and it seemed OK in the visible editor. I saved it.Then check it out in SourceCode Mode, It turned to be 大阪證券.(The original was 大證).
One more is that,I also tried to do a copy-paste of "大阪證券交易所" to modify it. I found that the Link was destroyed sadly.
BTW,I have modified it in SouceCode Mode one more time and succeeded.
Heshoudong @2015/8/3 16:10JST
- Hello again Heshoudong: changes to the way links can be edited will be announced in the upcoming newsletter. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月5日 (三) 15:58 (UTC)
- Hello again Elitre (WMF): Thank you for you answer.Look forward to this new function.Thanks and Wishes. -- Heshoudong(留言) @2015/8/6 11:50JST
Citoid
Hello. I wanted to make sure you all had seen this List of the most referenced domains on this wiki. It can be very useful to test how the most used sources in your language are doing in the VisualEditor's auto-filled citation generator. Hope this helps, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月11日 (二) 15:50 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #4—2015
您知道麼?
在上期新聞開始,編輯開發團隊已開始移動端的功能支援。他們已修復了很多臭蟲,並改進了語言支援。他們每周會將他們的工作狀態總結到 mediawiki.org。 他們的工作板可在 Phabricator 找到。他們目前優先進行的是改進語言支持,以及流動裝置上的功能支持性。
維基媒體國際會議
可視化編輯器編輯器開發團隊參與了2015年在墨西哥市的維基媒體國際會議。在那邊,團隊成員參與了黑客松並且也與許多的個人或團體用戶見上一面。團隊成員同時也發表了多場可視化編輯器以及編輯的未來發展的相關講演。
在會議期間,我們宣佈了可視化編輯器2015年翻譯馬拉松大賽的獲勝者。我們熱烈祝賀以下用戶獲勝:Halan-tul、Renessaince、जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta)、Vahe Gharakhanyan、Warrakkk和Eduardogobi。
對於『介面訊息'(可在 translatewiki.net 翻譯),我們看到了42種語言的主動改進。在翻譯馬拉松之前,跨語言的平均進度是56.5%,而在此之後則是78.2%,增長了21.7%。 詳細情況是:薩哈語從12.2%躍升至94.2%;巴西葡萄牙語從50.6%開始直接100%完成;Taraškievica語則從44.9%增長至85.3%;Doteli語從1.3%增長至41.2%。另外,在翻譯馬拉松前,消息的1.7%曾被告知已過時,而在結束後,這一比例則變成0.8%,下降了0.9%。
對於『文件訊息'(位於 mediawiki.org),我們看到了24種語言的主動改進。在翻譯馬拉松之前,跨語言的平均進度是26.6%,而在此之後則是46.9%,增長了20.3%。有3種語言做出了顯著改進。 亞美尼亞語從1%進步到99%;瑞典語從21%進步到99%;以及巴西葡萄牙語從34%進步到83%。過時翻譯從此前的8.4%下降到4.8%,下降了3.6%。
我們公開了部分的圖表到翻譯馬拉松的頁面上,展示此次翻譯松的產生的效益。我們感謝翻譯志工的參與以及 translatewiki.net 的工作人員協調此計劃。
新的功能改進
引用的自動填寫功能現在在個別的維基百科已經可以啟用。這個工具使用citoid 服務來將URL或DOI轉換成已經預先填好、格式也已預先設定好的引用書目資料。 You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org.
Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top. In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software.
將來的改進
The team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not.
On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. 您可以透過觀賞2015年7月國際年會研究報告的影片來學習更多相關內容。能夠允許登入兩種環境的新帳戶比例將會逐步增加。最終所有的新用戶都可以自己選擇要用哪一種編輯環境。
讓我們手拉手,一起工作吧
- 請分享您的意見和問題在 mw:VisualEditor/Feedback。此反饋頁面現已不再使用 LiquidThreads,現已改用 Flow。
- 您是否可以閱讀並書寫韓語或日語?語言工程師David Chan需要了解一些語言使用的是什麼輸入工具。如果您講韓語或日語,您可以幫助測試這些語言的支持性。如果您想幫助,請在mediawiki.org查看說明。
- 如果您的wiki希望在其他名字空間啟用可視化編輯器,您可以在Phabricator提交一個請求。請在更改請求中包括一個連結,指明對應的社群討論。
- 請在 Phabricator 提交語言相關請求時,在樣式菜單中使用 "粗體" 和 "斜體" 圖示。
- 設計研究團隊希望能夠看到實際的編者工作的狀況。歡迎您在此報名加入他們的研究計劃。
- 本週的任務重要性排序會議仍持續對志工開放,通常是在週二的中午12:00太平洋時區(19:00 UTC/協調世界時)。若想了解如何加入此會議以及如何提報程式錯誤,詳見mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings。不過您並一定需要實際參與會議才能提報錯誤列入第一緊急重要須解決的事情。相對的,你可以去Phabricator並且將程式錯誤與這個錯誤主要發生的可視化編輯器計劃做「連結」。
如果本篇快訊的語言並非您最常用、最喜歡閱讀的語種,敬請您協助我們翻譯!訂閱翻譯郵件群組或是直接地聯絡我們,以方便我們在下一期準備好時通知您。謝謝!
Please read: a proposal to centralize VisualEditor feedback on www.mediawiki.org
Hello. The VisualEditor team would like to inform you of a plan to redirect local pages for VisualEditor feedback to the board on mediawiki.org a few weeks from now. This applies to all the wikis where such pages are inactive or have low traffic, including yours. When this happens, editors will be free to use their own language to write on the mediawiki.org's page - although English is the most popular language there. Even feedback left from within VisualEditor with the built-in tool will be posted to the board on mediawiki.org.
Having all the feedback on a single, centralized place mainly means getting faster, more frequent replies and more attention from a higher number of people, including the people who are building the software. It also means chances are high, that editors will find that someone else has already written there about the issues or requests they wanted to post.
Maintaining a local page instead can be cumbersome: it needs to be checked frequently in case someone reports urgent issues. Old threads need to be archived from time to time. Off-topic comments should be removed to keep readability. Feedback left there is sometimes not easily understandable or actionable at all.
If at least one community member per wiki expressly commits to taking care of the local page, the redirect will not be necessary, although we need to establish a clear process with this person as soon as possible so that this person knows when to escalate issues to Phabricator or to Community Liaisons, and can receive useful tips based on our experience. Therefore, if you'd like to volunteer for this task, please leave a message on my talk page within one week. Otherwise, we'll redirect the feedback page and feedback from the built-in tool to mediawiki.org at the given deadline. Thanks for your understanding, Elitre (WMF) 2015年8月27日 (四) 19:31 (UTC)
關於表格
可視化編輯器表格編輯無法保存。Yhy9630(留言) 2015年9月4日 (五) 01:51 (UTC)
- Hey Yhy9630, which article were you trying to edit? What where the contents of such a table? What's your browser and operating system? Thanks. --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年9月8日 (二) 07:32 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm in "中文維基百科". I were trying editing 初級中等教育畢業考試#.E5.B1.B1.E4.B8.9C.E6.B3.B0.E5.AE.89.5B10.5D recently. I have tried to use the visual editor to write the table, but I can't save the sencond line (the line of "時間"). Then I edit it by editing the source code. And my browser is 360 Browser which build on Chromium kernel. My operating system is Windows Xp Professional with service pack 3. Thanks. Yhy9630(留言) 2015年9月11日 (五) 04:39 (UTC)
- Yhy9630, sorry for the delay, Looks like the table's wikitext is malformed. That needs to be fixed in wikitext mode, then you'll be able to use VE on that table. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年10月13日 (二) 13:31 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! :) --Yhy9630(留言) 2015年10月15日 (四) 05:19 (UTC)
- Yhy9630, sorry for the delay, Looks like the table's wikitext is malformed. That needs to be fixed in wikitext mode, then you'll be able to use VE on that table. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年10月13日 (二) 13:31 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm in "中文維基百科". I were trying editing 初級中等教育畢業考試#.E5.B1.B1.E4.B8.9C.E6.B3.B0.E5.AE.89.5B10.5D recently. I have tried to use the visual editor to write the table, but I can't save the sencond line (the line of "時間"). Then I edit it by editing the source code. And my browser is 360 Browser which build on Chromium kernel. My operating system is Windows Xp Professional with service pack 3. Thanks. Yhy9630(留言) 2015年9月11日 (五) 04:39 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #5—2015
你知道嗎?
自從上次的電子報,可視化編輯器的負責團隊已經修復了許多的臭蟲,添增了許多新功能,也做了一些小範圍的設計更動。 他們於mediawiki.org 網站上發佈了每週現況報告。他們的工作進度版可以在Phabricator中找到。 他們的現在優先事項是改善像是日語和阿拉伯語的語言支援,讓流動裝置更容易編輯,以及提供運算式、圖表、相本以及上傳功能更豐富的多媒體工具。
近期的修正
教學功能:當你第一次使用可視化編輯器時,它會要你注意連結與⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽工具。當你點選這些工具時,可視化編輯器會說明為什麼你應該使用它們。 (T108620) 除此之外,對新使用者的歡迎訊息也有簡化,讓編輯更加平易近人。 (T112354) 更多軟件中的教學功能也在規劃之中了。
連結:可視化編輯器現在更容易理解你要「幫某個連結增加一段文字」,還是「在連結的旁邊輸入一段跟連結無關的文字」這兩者的區別。 (T74108, T91285) 現在編輯器已經完整支援國際書號(ISBN)、PubMed唯一識別碼(PMID)、徵求修正意見書(RFC)的數字。 (T109498, T110347, T63558) 這類的神奇連結使用自訂的連結編輯工具。
上傳:註冊的編輯者現在可以在編輯的同時,上傳圖片以及其他多媒體檔案到共享資源。點擊在插入 圖片與媒體工具中的新標籤頁。你將會被引導到相關的上傳檔案流程而不用離開編輯模式。在最後,圖片將會被插入。這個工具目前限制一次上傳一個、同時圖片的製作者是使用者本人、而且用一般共享資源授權的檔案。在更複雜的情形下,這個工具會連結到進階的其他上傳工具。你可以將想要上傳的圖片檔案拖移到編輯器中。上述功能也將會在稍後可以於維基語法編輯器中使用。
行動版:在此之前,可視化編輯器只能夠在平板電腦上的行動版維基百科站台使用。現在,編輯者可以透過不限大小的流動裝置來使用可視化編輯器。 (T85630) 編輯衝突之前在行動版網站會造成當機。現在編輯衝突在不論是維基語法或是可視化編輯器都可以處理。 (T111894) 有時候模板或類似的項目在行動版網站上是無法被刪除的。因為一旦選擇了這樣的項目,會造成有些瀏覽器中的螢幕鍵盤被隱藏了起來。現在有開發新的刪除鈕,所以這樣的項目在鍵盤隱藏下仍然可以被移除。 (T62110) 現在你也可以在流動裝置裏編輯表格欄位。
更豐富的編輯工具:你現在可以在可視化編輯器添加或編輯表單、音樂。(T112925) 還有獨立的標籤頁提供進階的選項,像是MIDI或Ogg音樂檔。 (T114227, T113354) 當編輯運算式以及其他的區塊時,在編輯時會顯示錯誤。也有可能編輯某些類型的圖表;未來將會繼續添增新的工具與支援更多的類型。
在英文維基百科,可視化編輯器現在是任何有創建帳戶者都自動可得。偏好設定鈕現在已經移到正常位置,在Special:Preferences裏頭。
未來的改進
不久之後,將能在編輯開始後再切換維基語法或可視化編輯器的編輯環境。 (T49779) 在此之前,你只能從可視化編輯器切換到維基語法的編輯器。雙向切換的功能將能實現單一編輯標籤頁的設計。 (T102398) 這個開發專案將會整合編輯和編輯原始碼標籤頁,類似於現在已經在行動版網站使用的系統。編輯標籤頁將會使用你上次打開的編輯器。
捲起袖子一起來
- 歡迎來可視化編輯器/回饋分享你的想法或發問。這個回饋頁面是使用Flow(暫譯「言流」工具)來進行討論。
- 你可以閱讀與輸入韓文或日文嗎?語言工程團隊David Chan需要知道有哪些工具可以輸入相關語言的人士協助。如果你說日文或韓文,你可以幫忙他測試這些語言的支援狀況。如果你想幫忙,請見「測什麼」的這篇介紹。你可以在Phabricator上回報(韓文—日文)或是在維基百科上(韓文-日文)回報。
- 本地管理員可以為你的維基站台設置自動化文獻的Citoid功能。如果你需要協助,請寫一篇請求信並到在Phabricator上的Citoid計劃發佈。如果在你的維基站台裏頭有重要的模板資料,也請在聯絡信中提及。
- 每週的工作任務優先分類聚會(task triage)是開放給志工參與的。在元維基:可視化編輯器的工作任務分類 (mw:Visual Editor/Weekly triage meetings)來學習如何加入這個聚會以及如何提報臭蟲。雖然也有實體聚會,但你不需要到會議現場就能提報臭蟲。只要上Phabricator並且合作跟可視化編輯器專案相關的臭蟲公告。
如果您希望看到此新聞不同的語言版本,歡迎您一同協助進行翻譯!訂閱譯者郵件列表或與我們直接聯繫,讓我們可以在下一期準備好時通知您,謝謝!
驗證碼輸入與內容複製問題
目前發現有兩個Bug:
- 提示輸入驗證碼,驗證碼輸對了也無法保存條目;
- 內容無法複製、剪切。
這也許是環境問題:Windows 10(Build 10565):Edge。--小老虎3018(留言) 2015年11月10日 (二) 09:44 (UTC)
- Hello 小老虎3018
- Sorry for the delay and for writing in English, I hope it is fine for you.
- Can you give me some details concerning the validation code (that how it is translated to me)? When do you have this code? We has some issues six months ago with CAPTCHA codes for external links. Is it related?
- Copy and cut content is a real problem. Does it happen every time or on specific cases?
- For both of these problems, have you tried to edit with an other browser than Edge? Do you have these problems when you are not connected (may be due to some gadgets you may have activate)?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月14日 (一) 17:43 (UTC)
建議
當關閉頁面時 會顯示「您確定要放棄編輯返回瀏覽模式嗎?」的文字(日語版同)。 建議改為「離開」等可以應對更多情況的敘述。 --Suchichi02(留言) 2015年11月28日 (六) 15:00 (UTC)
- Hi Suchichi02
- Sorry for the delay and for writing in English, I hope it is fine for you.
- The automated translation has been a little bit awkward. Do you mean there is Japanese in a message in Chinese? If yes, can you send me a screenshot?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月14日 (一) 17:59 (UTC)
- Tnanks for reply. I am not good at English, but
- I mean If I close some page in edit mode (not back to previous) it asked me make sure to back to Browse mode
- I think it can more compatible with other approaches.
- Thanks. --Suchichi02(留言) 2015年12月15日 (二) 07:15 (UTC)
- Your English is really better than my Chinese! :)
- I really want to solve your problem, and, to be sure we understand each other, I've asked for help. I hope you don't mind!
- Respectfully, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月15日 (二) 18:42 (UTC)
- He is probably suggesting that the savewarning could be changed from saying "go back to view mode", which is not always the case when the user is trying to navigate away from VE (perhaps they're clicking the history link), to something more general like "leaving the Visual Editor". Jimmy Xu 論 2015年12月15日 (二) 19:26 (UTC)
- Thank you Jimmy Xu!
- I've created a a task to discuss about that with developers.
- Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月17日 (四) 10:08 (UTC)
- Hi Suchichi02
- The message has been changed. The translation will follow soon!
- Thanks again, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2016年1月29日 (五) 09:45 (UTC)
- He is probably suggesting that the savewarning could be changed from saying "go back to view mode", which is not always the case when the user is trying to navigate away from VE (perhaps they're clicking the history link), to something more general like "leaving the Visual Editor". Jimmy Xu 論 2015年12月15日 (二) 19:26 (UTC)
Your attention please: feedback about the visual editor will soon be centralized on www.mediawiki.org
Hello again. Please excuse the English. 請協助翻譯成您使用的語言. 感謝您!
This is an update from the Editing team about redirecting local pages for feedback about the visual editor to the board on mediawiki.org. This is now technically feasible and will happen in early 2016. It applies to several wikis where such pages are inactive or have low traffic, including this wiki. We think this will help us in being more effective while processing feedback from a larger pool of wikis, not just the biggest ones. Please read our previous announcement from late August for more information; we thought we would double-check that this community is informed and agrees with the change. Please notice that if at least one community member here expressly commits to taking care of the local page, the redirect will not be necessary at this time, though. If you'd like to step up and be that person, please let me know within one week: we'll need to establish a clear process as soon as possible so that this person knows when and how to escalate issues to Phabricator or to Community Liaisons, and can receive useful tips based on our experience.
Thanks for your understanding, Elitre (WMF) 2015年12月14日 (一) 18:53 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #6—2015
你知道嗎?
自從上一份電子報發佈以來,視覺化編輯器團隊已經修復了許多漏洞,並擴充了數學公式的工具。 其工作內容已經在Phabricator內發佈。 其目前的主要工作是增加對於日文或阿拉伯文等語言的支援,以及提供對公式、圖表、圖片及上傳的豐富媒體工具。
新改進的功能
您可以在開始編輯後於Wikitext編輯器與視覺化編輯器之間切換。 LaTeX數學公式編輯器有相當大的擴展。 (T118616) 您現在可以在更改LaTeX原始碼時看見公式的改動。您也可以使用按鈕來為許多符號插入正確的LaTeX原始碼。
未來改進
單一編輯按鈕 會將"編輯"和"編輯原始碼"按鈕合併為一個"編輯"按鈕,就像在手機版網頁裏使用的系統一樣。 (T102398, T58337) 最初,編輯按鈕會開啟您上次使用的編輯模式。若是未登入的使用者,上次的編輯選擇資訊會儲存在Cookie裏,若是已登入使用者,則會儲存在帳號設定內。已登入使用者可以在偏好設定內的編輯選單裏利用編輯模式:下拉式選單選擇預設編輯器。
視覺化編輯器會在2016年上旬提供給下列語言維基百科的所有使用者: 阿姆哈拉語、布吉語、閩東語、克里語、曼島語、客語、亞美尼亞語、格魯吉亞語、旁狄希臘語、塞爾維亞-克羅地亞語、提格利尼亞語、明格列爾語、壯語以及閩南語。 (T116523) 請發表您的意見及您測試過的語言至mediawiki.org上的回報區。開發人員希望了解使用情形。也請您註明您使用的是何種電腦、網頁瀏覽器以及鍵盤。
自2016年起,在許多維基百科上的視覺化編輯器之回報頁面將會被重新導向至mediawiki.org。 (T92661)
測試機會
- 請測試在test2.wikipedia.org上的新系統「單一編輯按鈕」。您可以在未登入時編輯,以了解在其對未登入編輯者的運作方式,或建立另一個獨立的帳號測試,來保留您原本帳號的設定。 Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
- 記住我最後使用的編輯器、
- 如果可以,讓我使用視覺化編輯器、
- 總是讓我使用原始碼編輯器,以及
- 同時顯示兩種編輯器頁籤. (This is the current state for people already using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. 感謝您!
提交編輯內容時偶爾觸發bug
提交編輯後編輯能正常上傳到伺服器,但是有時候彈出的那個提交摘要框不會消失,頁面卡死。