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- 主页(或在MediaWiki)
- 反馈(或在MediaWiki)
- 沙盒(不要求账户)
- 即时统计
- Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
按用户类型,以所有编辑的百分比计数 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
按用户类型,以所有按用户类型区分的 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
以所有编辑的百分比计数 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
编辑次数的绝对值 - Hourly edits, VisualEditor vs. wikitext
按用户类型区分的编辑次数的绝对值 - Daily unique editors by UI
按用户类型 - Hourly reverted revisions
按回复类型 - (所有指示牌)
本页为Wikipedia:可视化编辑器的反馈页面。用户在编辑界面提交的反馈会加入到该页的最底端。由于软件不跟随重定向,请不要移动本页。
反馈应当跟随重定向
反馈提交应当跟随重定向 Ben.mq 2013年4月26日 (五) 12:35 (UTC)
复查您的更改
编辑送出时,左上字样应为显示“复查您的更改”,错误的显示为“复查您的更高”。另外,它没有因为我是繁体用户而显示繁体字--Jasonzhuocn(留言) 2013年4月26日 (五) 15:52 (UTC)
- 翻译已经完成,请等待同步。--Ben.mq 2013年4月27日 (六) 04:14 (UTC)
无法启用?
已在参数设置中选中复选框,但貌似看不到可视化编辑的链接?--广雅 范★ 2013年4月27日 (六) 10:29 (UTC)
- 尝试清空本地缓存。在主条目和用户名字空间会出现编辑和编辑源代码两个按钮。--Ben.mq 2013年4月27日 (六) 10:42 (UTC)
- 找不到目标。在小工具中开启了“查看源代码”选项会影响此工具么?--广雅 范★ 2013年4月28日 (日) 01:50 (UTC)
工具栏有点儿不便
能不能允许工具栏设置成可以浮动于网页顶端,这样用起来会方便些。 ──★── 2013年4月28日 (日) 16:15 (UTC)
- 现在不是吗?-HW(论 献) 2013年5月1日 (三) 06:24 (UTC)
- 只有Internet Explorer中才有......--Zhangjintao(留言)(检查我的贡献) 2013年5月6日 (一) 08:24 (UTC)
有一些BUG
- 有时候在条目和用户页上方不会出现(出现的编辑是编辑源代码)
- 有时在Wikipedia名字空间却可以编辑(不是说只能在条目和用户页使用的嘛)
- 有时载入页面会出现如图提示
- 光标悬停在上方的编辑源代码出现的提示为英文
- 选择标题栏里竟然有1级标题诶, 囧rz……,源代码编辑器最大也就二级目录
目前就发现这些--Yanteng3议‧献‧邮 2013年5月1日 (三) 11:10 (UTC)
- 第一个的话,刷新缓存就可以了。第二个和第三个我没有发现,其中第二个这样不是更好吗?第四个是还没翻译吧…第五个应该没什么关系,反正原本就有1级标题的功能了。-哆啦A梦220‧284 2013年5月1日 (三) 16:44 (UTC)
- (:)回应1: 请刷新;2,3: 无法重现;4: 等待translatewiki翻译套用至本地;5: 1级标题本身就是MediaWiki的功能,而且这个编辑器不是只设计给维基百科用的。-HW(论 献) 2013年5月3日 (五) 15:06 (UTC)
简繁转换
那些简繁转换那个不能隐藏啊。。。。。 Zhangjintao(留言)(检查我的贡献) 2013年5月5日 (日) 11:50 (UTC)
- bugzilla:47913, bugzilla:41716--HW(论 献) 2013年5月11日 (六) 04:27 (UTC)
- 能不能在工具栏里面建立一个链接来管理?-- ──★── 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:29 (UTC)
- 可以,但是需要支持处理繁简转换。--Fantasticfears(留言+) 2013年9月20日 (五) 05:29 (UTC)
- 能不能在工具栏里面建立一个链接来管理?-- ──★── 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:29 (UTC)
用词问题
为什么可视化编辑器里面用的叫“复查您的更高”“保存您的更高”,这是什么意思?“更改”吗?--Techyan(留言) 2013年5月18日 (六) 05:55 (UTC)
- 错误翻译,等待更新。-HW(论 献) 2013年5月19日 (日) 09:38 (UTC)
- 已修复--HW(论 献) 2013年6月19日 (三) 03:27 (UTC)
可视化编辑器
这个编辑器过于简单……而且有的时候会莫名出现<nowiki>表示。 ——死亡之翼→→有事点这儿 2013年5月31日 (五) 04:44 (UTC)
希望能可视化编辑能增加表格功能
表格很常用 Kklxzxc(留言) 2013年6月15日 (六) 12:46 (UTC)
- mw:VisualEditor/Table editor--HW(论 献) 2013年6月19日 (三) 03:27 (UTC)
- 不知道能不能先做成从别的source可复制入wp 平常做表格一般先用excel打个草稿 Kuristina | Talk 2013年7月17日 (三) 10:00 (UTC)
插入媒体文件时出错
如我做的测试:User:Zhangjintao Zhangjintao(留言)(检查我的贡献) 2013年6月18日 (二) 08:41 (UTC)
字号有问题
使用可视化编辑器以后字号变小 ──★── 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:18 (UTC)
- 字号本来就是这么少的。在阅读模式,字号较大是因为小工具中预设启用的“小字号”工具。-HW(论 献 动员令) 2013年6月27日 (四) 13:21 (UTC)
- 楼上,是“大字体”,讲反了。-哆啦A梦中文维基百科条目数‧突破70万! 2013年6月28日 (五) 15:46 (UTC)
已修复. Liangent(留言) 2013年6月30日 (日) 12:51 (UTC)
- 要是能和 Special:Preferences 使用相同的字号配置就更好。
编辑超时
有时用户可能编辑条目一半时还没保存就改做别的事情,比如吃饭、外出、看其他网站等。回来再保存时,编辑超时就会出现错误,无法保存。估计是因为为了防止破坏而设立的key的实效有限。希望此事可以有一个刷新按钮,不丢失更改的情况下允许key的更新,以保存更改。--維基小霸王(留言) 2013年7月3日 (三) 13:03 (UTC)
中文输入时有一小问题
我用可视化编辑器编辑时,用QQ 云输入法做有串或无串行表时打不了字。 ──★── 2013年7月24日 (三) 10:10 (UTC)
一个编辑问题
编辑模板内容时还修改了图片的属性....
原始版本在这里 https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zhangjintao/MainPage&action=history
Zhangjintao(留言)(检查我的贡献) 2013年7月24日 (三) 12:55 (UTC)
- 已报告至Bugzilla。bugzilla:51963。-HW(论 献 动员令) 2013年7月24日 (三) 13:07 (UTC)
关于编辑摘要
编辑摘要上面的一行字单击后没有用... Zhangjintao(留言)(请关注维基百科强制加密登录的最新动态!) 2013年8月14日 (三) 08:25 (UTC)
- +1--印天胤の留言と书信 2013年8月28日 (三) 07:13 (UTC)
- 找Liangent. --HW(论 献 动员令) 2013年8月28日 (三) 14:13 (UTC)
无法建立重定向
支持的功能明显不足,重定向按钮应该有吧。 印天胤の留言と书信 2013年8月25日 (日) 13:08 (UTC)
不能换行
换行就会清空当前行,然后换成新的一行。 印天胤の留言と书信 2013年8月28日 (三) 07:07 (UTC)
- 无法重现--HW(论 献 动员令) 2013年8月28日 (三) 14:27 (UTC)
- 我也是,而且有时还会莫名其妙的变成棋子符号(♙)。-- ──★── 2013年9月10日 (二) 16:02 (UTC)
如何启用?
我开启了可视化编辑器之后,可是只看见了“编辑源代码”,
并没有看见“编辑”,这是怎么回事?--快乐一家(留言) 2013年8月29日 (四) 13:46 (UTC)
注明一下:我使用的浏览器是IE10,不是可以支持的吗?--快乐一家(留言) 2013年10月6日 (日) 14:07 (UTC)
- 在主条目和用户名字空间才会出现,确认一下?--Fantasticfears(留言) 2013年10月8日 (二) 05:12 (UTC)
添加信息的时候很容易好好的失去原有的信息
希望能够解决 快乐一家(留言) 2013年9月7日 (六) 11:41 (UTC)
希望可视化编辑器能与 Wikitext 编辑器整合
希望基金会能把可视化编辑器与 Wikitext 编辑器整合起来,让用户在编辑过程中能同时使用这两种编辑器,而不会发生冲突。就是说,用户使用可视化编辑器以后点击“编辑源代码”就能把之前编辑过的源代码在 Wikitext 编辑器修改,反过来用户编辑源代码以后可以直接切换到可视化编辑器中继续编辑,而不是弹出一个是否离开页面的提问。这样可以弥补两种编辑器的不足之处,大大方便编者。 ──★── 2013年9月8日 (日) 09:41 (UTC)
集中精力编辑
能否点击段落的编辑时,只显示这一段的内容。 这样更有利于集中精力编辑,且更不易出错及方便。 Cylbf2(留言) 2013年10月3日 (四) 14:26 (UTC)
- 技术上不太好做(做不到)--Fantasticfears(留言) 2013年10月4日 (五) 12:00 (UTC)
Opera 17 不支持可视化编辑器?
我用Opera17编辑时弹出通知说不支持当前的浏览器。。。 Zhangjintao(留言) 2013年11月7日 (四) 04:56 (UTC)
编辑摘要
点了自动增加编辑摘要的链接,结果跳到另一页。 byfserag(留言) 2013年11月22日 (五) 23:18 (UTC)
智能注音输入法的卡字问题回报
您好,使用智能注音输入法打字的时候,在还没选好字之前就会不断有不是所选字被输入到编辑区。我是使用OS 10.6.8的作业环境,chrome。输入法是Yahoo奇摩输入法1.1。--上官(留言) 2013年11月25日 (一) 10:00 (UTC)
链接问题
当为一段文字加上链接之后,在其后面继续输入文字时新输入的文字也会被自动加上链接,想要消除多余的链接只能把整段的链接都取消掉然后重新设置,很麻烦。 侧耳倾听 2013年12月14日 (六) 04:46 (UTC)
中文输入Bug
当我在输入中文时自始至终都会出现一个Bug,每当我摁下一个键(包括Backspace等)时,输入法中的首选项就会被输入但是输入的框并不会消失,这样最后打好一个词组甚至每一个字都要删去后面很多个字,造成很大的麻烦。 我的 操作系统:Ubuntu 13.10 'Saucy' 桌面环境:Unity 浏览器:Chromium 31 输入法:Fcitx下的Google拼音 ps:这是我第四次提交这个报告,前三次提交花了很久然后告诉我api没有响应 我只是一个中学生~~~(留言) 2013年12月21日 (六) 13:53 (UTC)
哇,我也有这种状况。-Zhangjintao(留言) 2014年2月11日 (二) 23:12 (UTC)
超链接功能大小写敏感
如输入Playstation无法找到PlayStation,有点麻烦 L19980623(留言) 2013年12月27日 (五) 12:09 (UTC)
求翻译
刚才发现编辑器的工具栏多出了“Insert”按钮,求翻译。 ──★── 2013年12月27日 (五) 14:11 (UTC)
简体与繁体
在编辑简体中文文本时,会出现一些繁体字。如编辑“王毅”的简体页,“中华人民共和国”是用繁体书写。 谢子民(留言) 2014年1月12日 (日) 02:13 (UTC)
- 旧版编辑器此问题已存在,且未来亦未有计划解决?-HW(论 献 动员令) 2014年1月13日 (一) 08:02 (UTC)
Difficult use
It is very difficult use Rex Sim Suen Lin(留言) 2014年4月2日 (三) 13:11 (UTC)
字号太小了
开了可视化编辑器以后正文字号太小(看这里),建议改成 14px。--⚞★⚟ 2014年4月16日 (三) 15:30 (UTC)
插入公式的缺陷
编辑公式时无法输入“>”,提示解析失败(语法错误),显示为“>”。 Scotcn(留言) 2014年6月20日 (五) 14:12 (UTC)
Updates related to VisualEditor
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Hi, everybody. This is a reminder that we invite you to discuss VisualEditor's recent development and plans ahead during the next office hours with James Forrester (Product Manager):
If you are not able to attend but have a question for James, you can leave your question at mediawiki.org or on my talk page by the day before, and I will try to get a response. We plan to continue these monthly sessions as long as there is community interest, and to announce them through the VisualEditor global newsletter as well (please subscribe your talk page there to get the latest news about the software).
Most of the VisualEditor team will be at Wikimania in London in August! You'll be able to meet the developers during the Hackaton or at the following sessions:
- VisualEditor — helping users edit more easily, Saturday, August 9;
- VisualEditor — engineering against the odds, Sunday, August 10.
WMF community liaisons will share a booth with community advocates at the Community Village and look forward to talking to you there. Thanks for your attention! --User:Elitre (WMF) 2014年7月31日 (四) 17:06 (UTC)
VisualEditor global newsletter—July and August 2014
The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
- Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
- You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
- All references and footnotes (
<ref>
tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "插入" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "插入" menu. - When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
- All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
- The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
- The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.
Looking ahead
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.
Feedback opportunities
The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30. There is a VisualEditor Translation Sprint going on during Wikimania; whether you're in London or not, any contributions are welcome!
Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).
If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 2014年8月9日 (六) 14:40 (UTC)
TemplateData editor soon available on this Wikipedia
Hello, my apologies for writing this announcement in English. A tool for editing TemplateData will be deployed to this wiki on Thursday, 9 October. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation (or to change it). You will be able to use it by editing the template's documentation page and clicking the 编辑模板数据 button at the top. You can test the TemplateData editor now in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Please see more detailed instructions at Mediawiki.org (those can be translated there, and also imported on this wiki later if you need to). Don't hesitate to contact me if you need further information. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2014年10月7日 (二) 11:32 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #8—2014
Since the last newsletter, the Editing team has reduced technical debt, simplified some workflows for template and citation editing, made major progress on Internet Explorer support, and fixed over 125 bugs and requests. Several performance improvements were made, especially to the system around re-using references and reference lists. Weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org.
There were three issues that required urgent fixes: a deployment error that meant that many buttons didn't work correctly (bugs 69856 and 69864), a problem with edit conflicts that left the editor with nowhere to go (bug 69150), and a problem in Internet Explorer 11 that replaced some categories with a link to the system message MediaWiki:Badtitletext (bug 70894) when you saved. The developers apologize for the disruption, and thank the people who reported these problems quickly.
Increased support for devices and browsers
Internet Explorer 10 and 11 users now have access to VisualEditor. This means that about 5% of Wikimedia's users will now get an "Edit" tab alongside the existing "Edit source" tab. Support for Internet Explorer 9 is planned for the future.
Tablet users browsing the site's mobile mode now have the option of using a mobile-specific form of VisualEditor. More editing tools, and availability of VisualEditor on smartphones, is planned for the future. The mobile version of VisualEditor was tweaked to show the context menu for citations instead of basic references (bug 68897). A bug that broke the editor in iOS was corrected and released early (bug 68949). For mobile tablet users, three bugs related to scrolling were fixed (bug 66697, bug 68828, bug 69630). You can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia from your tablet by clicking on the cog in the top-right when editing a page and choosing which editor to use.
模板数据编辑器
The tool for editing TemplateData has been deployed to 30 more Wikipedias this week. Other Wikipedias and some other projects may receive access next month. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template page or a subpage, and then click the "编辑模板数据" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
其他更改
Several interface messages and labels were changed to be simpler, clearer, or shorter, based on feedback from translators and editors. The formatting of dialogs was changed, and more changes to the appearance will be coming soon, when VisualEditor implements the new MediaWiki theme from Design. (A preview of the theme is available on Labs for developers.) The team also made some improvements for users of the Monobook skin that improved the size of text in toolbars and fixed selections that overlapped menus.
VisualEditor-MediaWiki now supplies the mw-redirect
and mw-disambig
class on links to redirects and disambiguation pages, so that user gadgets that colour in these types of links can be created.
Templates' fields can be marked as 'required
' in TemplateData. If a parameter is marked as required, then you cannot delete that field when you add a new template or edit an existing one (bug 60358).
Language support improved by making annotations use bi-directional isolation (so they display correctly with cursoring behaviour as expected) and by fixing a bug that crashed VisualEditor when trying to edit a page with a dir
attribute but no lang
set (bug 69955).
Looking ahead
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon, perhaps in late October.
The team is also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables, and early work for this may appear within the month. Please comment on the design at Mediawiki.org.
In the future, real-time collaborative editing may be possible in VisualEditor. Some early preparatory work for this was recently done.
支持您的wiki
At Wikimania, several developers gave presentations about VisualEditor. A translation sprint focused on improving access to VisualEditor was supported by many people. Deryck Chan was the top translator. Special honors also go to संजीव कुमार (Sanjeev Kumar), Robby, Takot, Bachounda, Bjankuloski06 and Ата. A summary of the work achieved by the translation community is available. Thank you all for your work.
This was the first translatable VisualEditor newsletter, so thanks to everybody who made this possible! If it hasn't been delivered in your language, and you'd like to help with translations in the future, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre (WMF), so that you will be notified when the next issue is due.
VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
Please join the office hours on Saturday, 18 October 2014 at 18:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Africa and Europe) and on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC on IRC.
Give feedback on VisualEditor at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF)
2014年10月13日 (一) 09:49 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #9—2014
您知道么?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.
最近改进
Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in them was just introduced to Wikipedias. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be added later.
To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus are now hidden behind a "更多" item, such as "下划线" in the styling menu.
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias this week, and the following week at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar menus are now shown in the menus.
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience/Design group. The appearance of dialog boxes has already changed in the mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. You are welcome to compare the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search engine could not find the page. A link inside a template to a local page that does not exist will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to an error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [2] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
模板数据
The tool for quickly editing TemplateData has been deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool was already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "编辑模板数据" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData to learn more about it. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common value for that parameter. The autovalue can be overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog box in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "推荐" or "可选" in TemplateData instead.
展望
The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide is being updated to add information about editing tables. The translations of the user guide for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.
You can influence VisualEditor's design! Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF)
2014年11月14日 (五) 23:29 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #10—2014
您知道么?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).
新的改进
Basic support for editing tables is now available. You can add and delete tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan
and colspan
elements, instead of trying to repair them.
You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ^ Ctrl
+F
or ⌘ Cmd
+F
.
You can now create and edit simple <blockquote>
paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "段落" into a "整段引语".
Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "*
" will make the line a bullet list; "1.
" or "#
" will make it a numbered list; "==
" will make it a section heading; ":
" will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change.
There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[
" for opening the link tool, and "{{
" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ^ Ctrl
+K
to open the link editor, still work.
If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.
您可以再次创建和编辑图册作为wiki文本代码。
展望
The current VisualEditor design will be replaced with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at mediawiki.org in late December and on other sites in early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)
The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January.
Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.
让我们一起工作
- 在可视化编辑器反馈页面分享您的主意并询问问题。
- 很多语言的用户指南的翻译版本已经过时。只有乌克兰语、葡萄牙语、西班牙语、法语和荷兰语译者最近一直在活跃。请帮助改进现有翻译以帮助使用您说的语言的用户。
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC.
- File requests for language-appropriate "粗体" and "斜体" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
2014年12月26日 (五) 18:59 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #1—2015
上次新闻以来,编辑团队修复了很多错误,并改进了可视化编辑器的外观,即将来到的Citoid参考服务,并支持复杂输入环境的语言。 Status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins.
Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.
新的改进
The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:
- starts a new task, like opening the ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽ dialog: 蓝色 ,
- takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation: 绿色 ,
- might remove or lose your work, like removing a link: 红色 , 或
- is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window: 灰色 .
The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor. (T67815, T73746.) This change fixed a couple of existing bugs and improved usability. (T73077, T73078.)
Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once.(T78234.)
Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedia requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace. (T86688, T87027.) If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
展望
The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.
We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.
让我们一起工作
- 在可视化编辑器反馈页面分享您的主意并询问问题。
- 请帮助完成面向您的语言的用户指引的翻译。
- Join the weekly bug triage meetings beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC); information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins, and you can also contact James F. to learn more about this initiative.
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Thursday, 19 February 2015 at 19:00 UTC.
- 在元维基订阅或取消订阅。如果您希望帮助翻译此篇新闻,请订阅翻译者电子邮件列表或联系我们,因此我们可以通知您下一次期刊何时发布。感谢!
2015年2月5日 (四) 18:30 (UTC)
可视化编辑器没有插入源代码块功能
我在可视化编辑器找不到能代替源码编辑中source标签的按钮 闪电企鹅 2015年2月10日 (二) 02:52 (UTC)
- 闪电企鹅, hi, can you clarify this request? thanks! --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月12日 (四) 18:48 (UTC)
- Elitre (WMF), thanks for noticing it. I was editing an page that have Source Code with Visual Editor. I wanna write it into a source block.(<source lang="xxx"></source>) But I cannot find any button can do it! So I have to save the editing and go to sourcecode editor. --闪电企鹅 2015年3月22日 (日) 08:06 (UTC)
- 闪电企鹅, hi again. So you can not use the source tag, but you can use the <code> one. You can find it among the formatting options (see here, you need to expand the menu to find the "computer code" option). By the way, you don't need to save to switch to the wikitext editor: when you are in VE, just click on the Edit source tab and you will be prompted to switch - you can retain changes if you want. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 20:56 (UTC)
- Elitre (WMF), thx. I've found it. --闪电企鹅 2015年3月28日 (六) 10:57 (UTC)
- 闪电企鹅, hi again. So you can not use the source tag, but you can use the <code> one. You can find it among the formatting options (see here, you need to expand the menu to find the "computer code" option). By the way, you don't need to save to switch to the wikitext editor: when you are in VE, just click on the Edit source tab and you will be prompted to switch - you can retain changes if you want. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 20:56 (UTC)
- Elitre (WMF), thanks for noticing it. I was editing an page that have Source Code with Visual Editor. I wanna write it into a source block.(<source lang="xxx"></source>) But I cannot find any button can do it! So I have to save the editing and go to sourcecode editor. --闪电企鹅 2015年3月22日 (日) 08:06 (UTC)
希望可以加入编辑摘要和符号表
希望可以如下加入编辑摘要(“选择:”那个): 和编辑源代码时最下方的符号表。--ひろし(留言) 2015年3月21日 (六) 11:16 (UTC)
- 这个编辑摘要以前有过,点选“保存页面”就能看到,现在不知道怎么的就没了,好像是用 {{int:summary}} 生成的。另外这个编辑器本身就有一个符号表,点选工具列上面的“Ω”就会出来,但里面的符号列表是固定的,比原来的 Wikitext 编辑器少得多,我觉得应该允许管理员往里面添加扩展的列表。--⚞★⚟ 2015年3月26日 (四) 16:46 (UTC)
- If you need more special characters in the list, just customize it. See instructions at mw:VisualEditor/Special characters. There is a request on Phabricator to make the character inserter available in places like the wikilink or the template inserter. Is your request about using those characters in the edit summary, or is it different? Thank you. --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 21:26 (UTC)
- 如同 User:Great Brightstar 所说的,“Ω”里面的符号列表是固定的,比原来的 Wikitext 编辑器少得多。里面的符号不但很少,而且都是一些不怎么常用的特殊符号。在中文维基百科编辑时,编辑框下方会有一个如下的符号列表:
- If you need more special characters in the list, just customize it. See instructions at mw:VisualEditor/Special characters. There is a request on Phabricator to make the character inserter available in places like the wikilink or the template inserter. Is your request about using those characters in the edit summary, or is it different? Thank you. --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年3月26日 (四) 21:26 (UTC)
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- 这是用 Template:Edittools 生成的,我希望能在 VisualEditor 里加入以上的常用符号表。--ひろし(留言) 2015年3月29日 (日) 05:43 (UTC)
- 要是能允许管理员自定义就更好。--⚞★⚟ 2015年3月29日 (日) 08:51 (UTC)
- 这是用 Template:Edittools 生成的,我希望能在 VisualEditor 里加入以上的常用符号表。--ひろし(留言) 2015年3月29日 (日) 05:43 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #2—2015
Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.
The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.
Recent improvements
VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.
The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.
Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.
Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.
The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.
You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.
The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.
Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.
Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead. (T90734)
Looking ahead
The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.
The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users at the English Wikipedia, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon. (T90666)
Let's work together
- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
- Can you translate from English into any other language? Please check this list to see whether more interface translations are needed for your language. Contact us to get an account if you want to help!
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- File requests for language-appropriate "粗体" and "斜体" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
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2015年4月10日 (五) 19:48 (UTC)
显示一个警告是什么
- 用户代理: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:37.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/37.0
不能打开,亦不能删除
卝工(留言) 2015年4月29日 (三) 08:46 (UTC)
- 卝工, hello. Could you please tell what is this thing which can not be displayed and cannot be deleted, where can I see it? Thanks! --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年5月4日 (一) 17:57 (UTC)
Elitre (WMF),When I edit the personal User page, using the visual editor, I will see a warning on the top-right, a symbol which is a triangle+! and saying "1个警告"; but I cannot open it and delete it. What is that? --卝工
- 卝工, it is a broken notice. See [3]. Thanks for reporting this! --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年5月19日 (二) 16:48 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #3—2015
你知道吗?
在上一次电子报之后,编辑团队已经创建了提供为连结或引用功能的新界面,同时也修正了许多的臭虫并且改变了一些设计元素。有些臭虫有影响到以行动设备使用可视化编辑器的用户。 状况报告已经贴到了mediawiki.org上头。四月到六月的工作清单可以在Phabricator上找到。
在英文维基百科已经完成第一期可视化编辑器对新手编辑的效果测试。在这项测试中,一半的新注册使用者会预设使用可视化编辑器进行编辑,另外一半则否。 这项研究的主要目的是了解哪一群团体更会去编辑并且产出有用、不会被回退的贡献内容。初步的研究结果将会在本月底发布于元维基页面。
近日改进功能
Auto-fill features for citations are available at a few Wikipedias through the citoid service. Citoid takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. If Citoid is enabled on your wiki, then the design of the citation workflow changed during May. All citations are now created inside a single tool. Inside that tool, choose the tab you want (⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-auto⧽, ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-manual⧽, or ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-reuse⧽). The cite button is now labeled with the word "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" rather than a book icon, and the autofill citation dialog now has a more meaningful label, "⧼Citoid-citeFromIDDialog-lookup-button⧽", for the submit button.
The link tool has been redesigned based on feedback from Wikipedia editors and user testing. It now has two separate sections: one for links to articles and one for external links. When you select a link, its pop-up context menu shows the name of the linked page, a thumbnail image from the linked page, Wikidata's description, and appropriate icons for disambiguation pages, redirect pages and empty pages (where applicable). Search results have been reduced to the first five pages. Several bugs were fixed, including a dark highlight that appeared over the first match in the link inspector. (T98085)
The special character inserter in VisualEditor now uses the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki can also create a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Please read the instructions for customizing the list at mediawiki.org. Also, there is now a tooltip to describing each character in the special character inserter. (T70425)
Several improvements have been made to templates. When you search for a template to insert, the list of results now contains descriptions of the templates. The parameter list inside the template dialog now remains open after inserting a parameter from the list, so that users don’t need to click on "⧼visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-add-param⧽" each time they want to add another parameter. (T95696) The team added a new property for TemplateData, "示例值", for template parameters. This optional, translatable property will show up when there is text describing how to use that parameter. (T53049)
The design of the main toolbar and several other elements have changed slightly, to be consistent with the MediaWiki theme. In the Vector skin, individual items in the menu are separated visually by pale gray bars. Buttons and menus on the toolbar can now contain both an icon and a text label, rather than just one or the other. This new design feature is being used for the cite button on wikis where the Citoid service is enabled.
The team has released a long-desired improvement to the handling of non-existent images. If a non-existent image is linked in an article, then it is now visible in VisualEditor and can be selected, edited, replaced, or removed.
卷起袖子一起来
- 在可视化编辑器反馈页面(mw:VisualEditor/Feedback)分享您的点子并询问问题。
- 每周的任务分流聚会仍然持续对所有志工开放,会议时间通常都是在周三的中午12:00(PDT,太平洋时区)(UTC-7)。想知道怎么参与聚会,又要如何提报臭虫,请见任务分流聚页面(mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings)。 你并不一定得参与聚会才能提报第四季的阻碍臭虫。你可以在Phabricator站台中“参与”可视化编辑器第四季阻碍计划(Q4 blocker project)来回报臭虫。
- 如果您所参与的维基导游、维基学院、或是其他维基媒体计划的社群有意预设可视化编辑器作为给站台里头所有编辑者的优先选项,欢迎您联系James Forrester。
- 如果您想要申请安装Citoid的自动参考文献搜集功能到您的维基站台的话,请在Citoid在Phabricator的计划页提出申请。申请时也请附上在您的维基站台中最重要的几种引用模板之模板资料的相关连结。
- 团队正在计划在七月进行第二波的可视化编辑器相关“翻译”工作。请订阅这个在Phabricator上的任务来得到更多细节与最新消息!请密切注意相关公告。
在元维基页面进行订阅、取消订阅、或改变此新闻寄送位址。如果您希望看到此新闻不同的语言版本,欢迎您一同协助进行翻译!订阅译者邮件列表或直接与我们联系,让我们可以在下一期准备好时通知您,谢谢!
2015年6月13日 (六) 10:44 (UTC)
取消功能
- 用户代理: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/44.0.2403.125 Safari/537.36
若是对编辑不满意,则难以取消并推出编辑。
HawkHerman 2015年7月31日 (五) 15:59 (UTC)
- Hello Heshoudong
- Sorry to write in English, but I don't speak Chinese :)
- How did you process to cancel?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年7月31日 (五) 17:54 (UTC)
- Hello Trizek (WMF)
- Good Afternoon.
- Thank you for your reaction.
- (I am Chinese, now in Japan.I am a freshman on Wikipedia,and I have started learning
- anything about Wikipedia to hope that maybe I could share something I could.
- I am trying to try to start something,so I sent this comment about 'cancle' function.)
- I am sorry that I had written in Chinese for I could have written English though my English is very poor,
- and I also made a spell mistake.It wasn't '推出',but '退出',which means 'quit'.
- I couldn't find any 'quit' button, so I click the 'homepage' link to cancle my edit rudely.
- Thanks.Heshoudong
-
- Hello Heshoudong, I think you may be talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470? You can simply click ESC to leave VE at any time, anyway. Also, you can easily switch to the wikitext editor by clicking on its tab. Please let us know what doesn't work for you in VE. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月5日 (三) 15:57 (UTC)
- Hello Elitre (WMF) Thank you very much for you comments.
- Yes, I am talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470 .
- There is not any big thing which doesn't work for me by now.And I hope I can more clearly write any comment on VE or others on wikipedia.I believe VE is very ideal,amazing and convenient to us.Thanks a lot for your work.
- I just think maybe it's better to add a function(like button) by witch we can cancel without saving when we don't want to log any bad record in the history of a page intentionally, then we can restart the edit after a new consideration/investigation.It is right that it's all on T85470.
- Thank you again and Best Wishes. -- Heshoudong(留言)
- Hello Heshoudong, I think you may be talking about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85470? You can simply click ESC to leave VE at any time, anyway. Also, you can easily switch to the wikitext editor by clicking on its tab. Please let us know what doesn't work for you in VE. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月5日 (三) 15:57 (UTC)
About modification of the name of a Link
- 用户代理: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/44.0.2403.125 Safari/537.36
It seems it's not easy to modify the name of a Link.
For example,in the "概要" part of the page of "东京证券交易所", I tried to modify the name "大证" of the Link大阪证券交易所 to "大阪证券交易所" to make it understood more easily. After I typed into "大阪证券交易所",and it seemed OK in the visible editor. I saved it.Then check it out in SourceCode Mode, It turned to be 大阪证券.(The original was 大证).
One more is that,I also tried to do a copy-paste of "大阪证券交易所" to modify it. I found that the Link was destroyed sadly.
BTW,I have modified it in SouceCode Mode one more time and succeeded.
Heshoudong @2015/8/3 16:10JST
- Hello again Heshoudong: changes to the way links can be edited will be announced in the upcoming newsletter. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月5日 (三) 15:58 (UTC)
- Hello again Elitre (WMF): Thank you for you answer.Look forward to this new function.Thanks and Wishes. -- Heshoudong(留言) @2015/8/6 11:50JST
Citoid
Hello. I wanted to make sure you all had seen this List of the most referenced domains on this wiki. It can be very useful to test how the most used sources in your language are doing in the VisualEditor's auto-filled citation generator. Hope this helps, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年8月11日 (二) 15:50 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #4—2015
您知道么?
在上期新闻开始,编辑开发团队已开始移动端的功能支持。他们已修复了很多臭虫,并改进了语言支持。他们每周会将他们的工作状态总结到 mediawiki.org。 他们的工作板可在 Phabricator 找到。他们目前优先进行的是改进语言支持,以及移动设备上的功能支持性。
维基媒体国际会议
可视化编辑器编辑器开发团队参与了2015年在墨西哥市的维基媒体国际会议。在那边,团队成员参与了黑客松并且也与许多的个人或团体用户见上一面。团队成员同时也发表了多场可视化编辑器以及编辑的未来发展的相关讲演。
在会议期间,我们宣布了可视化编辑器2015年翻译马拉松大赛的获胜者。我们热烈祝贺以下用户获胜:Halan-tul、Renessaince、जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta)、Vahe Gharakhanyan、Warrakkk和Eduardogobi。
对于‘界面消息'(可在 translatewiki.net 翻译),我们看到了42种语言的主动改进。在翻译马拉松之前,跨语言的平均进度是56.5%,而在此之后则是78.2%,增长了21.7%。 详细情况是:萨哈语从12.2%跃升至94.2%;巴西葡萄牙语从50.6%开始直接100%完成;Taraškievica语则从44.9%增长至85.3%;Doteli语从1.3%增长至41.2%。另外,在翻译马拉松前,消息的1.7%曾被告知已过时,而在结束后,这一比例则变成0.8%,下降了0.9%。
对于‘文档消息'(位于 mediawiki.org),我们看到了24种语言的主动改进。在翻译马拉松之前,跨语言的平均进度是26.6%,而在此之后则是46.9%,增长了20.3%。有3种语言做出了显著改进。 亚美尼亚语从1%进步到99%;瑞典语从21%进步到99%;以及巴西葡萄牙语从34%进步到83%。过时翻译从此前的8.4%下降到4.8%,下降了3.6%。
我们公开了部分的图表到翻译马拉松的页面上,展示此次翻译松的产生的效益。我们感谢翻译志工的参与以及 translatewiki.net 的工作人员协调此计划。
新的功能改进
引用的自动填写功能现在在个别的维基百科已经可以启用。这个工具使用citoid 服务来将URL或DOI转换成已经预先填好、格式也已预先设定好的引用书目资料。 You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org.
Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top. In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software.
将来的改进
The team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not.
On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. 您可以透过观赏2015年7月国际年会研究报告的影片来学习更多相关内容。能够允许登入两种环境的新账户比例将会逐步增加。最终所有的新用户都可以自己选择要用哪一种编辑环境。
让我们手拉手,一起工作吧
- 请分享您的意见和问题在 mw:VisualEditor/Feedback。此反馈页面现已不再使用 LiquidThreads,现已改用 Flow。
- 您是否可以阅读并书写韩语或日语?语言工程师David Chan需要了解一些语言使用的是什么输入工具。如果您讲韩语或日语,您可以帮助测试这些语言的支持性。如果您想帮助,请在mediawiki.org查看说明。
- 如果您的wiki希望在其他名字空间启用可视化编辑器,您可以在Phabricator提交一个请求。请在更改请求中包括一个链接,指明对应的社群讨论。
- 请在 Phabricator 提交语言相关请求时,在样式菜单中使用 "粗体" 和 "斜体" 图标。
- 设计研究团队希望能够看到实际的编者工作的状况。欢迎您在此报名加入他们的研究计划。
- 本周的任务重要性排序会议仍持续对志工开放,通常是在周二的中午12:00太平洋时区(19:00 UTC/协调世界时)。若想了解如何加入此会议以及如何提报程式错误,详见mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings。不过您并一定需要实际参与会议才能提报错误列入第一紧急重要须解决的事情。相对的,你可以去Phabricator并且将程式错误与这个错误主要发生的可视化编辑器计划做“连结”。
如果本篇快讯的语言并非您最常用、最喜欢阅读的语种,敬请您协助我们翻译!订阅翻译邮件群组或是直接地联络我们,以方便我们在下一期准备好时通知您。谢谢!
Please read: a proposal to centralize VisualEditor feedback on www.mediawiki.org
Hello. The VisualEditor team would like to inform you of a plan to redirect local pages for VisualEditor feedback to the board on mediawiki.org a few weeks from now. This applies to all the wikis where such pages are inactive or have low traffic, including yours. When this happens, editors will be free to use their own language to write on the mediawiki.org's page - although English is the most popular language there. Even feedback left from within VisualEditor with the built-in tool will be posted to the board on mediawiki.org.
Having all the feedback on a single, centralized place mainly means getting faster, more frequent replies and more attention from a higher number of people, including the people who are building the software. It also means chances are high, that editors will find that someone else has already written there about the issues or requests they wanted to post.
Maintaining a local page instead can be cumbersome: it needs to be checked frequently in case someone reports urgent issues. Old threads need to be archived from time to time. Off-topic comments should be removed to keep readability. Feedback left there is sometimes not easily understandable or actionable at all.
If at least one community member per wiki expressly commits to taking care of the local page, the redirect will not be necessary, although we need to establish a clear process with this person as soon as possible so that this person knows when to escalate issues to Phabricator or to Community Liaisons, and can receive useful tips based on our experience. Therefore, if you'd like to volunteer for this task, please leave a message on my talk page within one week. Otherwise, we'll redirect the feedback page and feedback from the built-in tool to mediawiki.org at the given deadline. Thanks for your understanding, Elitre (WMF) 2015年8月27日 (四) 19:31 (UTC)
关于表格
可视化编辑器表格编辑无法保存。Yhy9630(留言) 2015年9月4日 (五) 01:51 (UTC)
- Hey Yhy9630, which article were you trying to edit? What where the contents of such a table? What's your browser and operating system? Thanks. --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年9月8日 (二) 07:32 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm in "中文维基百科". I were trying editing 初级中等教育毕业考试#.E5.B1.B1.E4.B8.9C.E6.B3.B0.E5.AE.89.5B10.5D recently. I have tried to use the visual editor to write the table, but I can't save the sencond line (the line of "时间"). Then I edit it by editing the source code. And my browser is 360 Browser which build on Chromium kernel. My operating system is Windows Xp Professional with service pack 3. Thanks. Yhy9630(留言) 2015年9月11日 (五) 04:39 (UTC)
- Yhy9630, sorry for the delay, Looks like the table's wikitext is malformed. That needs to be fixed in wikitext mode, then you'll be able to use VE on that table. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年10月13日 (二) 13:31 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! :) --Yhy9630(留言) 2015年10月15日 (四) 05:19 (UTC)
- Yhy9630, sorry for the delay, Looks like the table's wikitext is malformed. That needs to be fixed in wikitext mode, then you'll be able to use VE on that table. Best, --Elitre (WMF)(留言) 2015年10月13日 (二) 13:31 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm in "中文维基百科". I were trying editing 初级中等教育毕业考试#.E5.B1.B1.E4.B8.9C.E6.B3.B0.E5.AE.89.5B10.5D recently. I have tried to use the visual editor to write the table, but I can't save the sencond line (the line of "时间"). Then I edit it by editing the source code. And my browser is 360 Browser which build on Chromium kernel. My operating system is Windows Xp Professional with service pack 3. Thanks. Yhy9630(留言) 2015年9月11日 (五) 04:39 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #5—2015
你知道吗?
自从上次的电子报,可视化编辑器的负责团队已经修复了许多的臭虫,添增了许多新功能,也做了一些小范围的设计更动。 他们于mediawiki.org 网站上发布了每周现况报告。他们的工作进度版可以在Phabricator中找到。 他们的现在优先事项是改善像是日语和阿拉伯语的语言支援,让移动设备更容易编辑,以及提供运算式、图表、相本以及上传功能更丰富的多媒体工具。
近期的修正
教学功能:当你第一次使用可视化编辑器时,它会要你注意链接与⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽工具。当你点选这些工具时,可视化编辑器会说明为什么你应该使用它们。 (T108620) 除此之外,对新使用者的欢迎讯息也有简化,让编辑更加平易近人。 (T112354) 更多软件中的教学功能也在规划之中了。
连结:可视化编辑器现在更容易理解你要“帮某个连结增加一段文字”,还是“在连结的旁边输入一段跟连结无关的文字”这两者的区别。 (T74108, T91285) 现在编辑器已经完整支援国际书号(ISBN)、PubMed唯一识别码(PMID)、征求修正意见书(RFC)的数字。 (T109498, T110347, T63558) 这类的神奇连结使用自订的连结编辑工具。
上传:注册的编辑者现在可以在编辑的同时,上传图片以及其他多媒体档案到共享资源。点击在插入 图像与媒体工具中的新标签页。你将会被引导到相关的上传档案流程而不用离开编辑模式。在最后,图片将会被插入。这个工具目前限制一次上传一个、同时图片的制作者是使用者本人、而且用一般共享资源授权的档案。在更复杂的情形下,这个工具会连结到进阶的其他上传工具。你可以将想要上传的图片档案拖移到编辑器中。上述功能也将会在稍后可以于维基语法编辑器中使用。
行动版:在此之前,可视化编辑器只能够在平板电脑上的行动版维基百科站台使用。现在,编辑者可以透过不限大小的移动设备来使用可视化编辑器。 (T85630) 编辑冲突之前在行动版网站会造成当机。现在编辑冲突在不论是维基语法或是可视化编辑器都可以处理。 (T111894) 有时候模板或类似的项目在行动版网站上是无法被删除的。因为一旦选择了这样的项目,会造成有些浏览器中的萤幕键盘被隐藏了起来。现在有开发新的删除钮,所以这样的项目在键盘隐藏下仍然可以被移除。 (T62110) 现在你也可以在移动设备里编辑表格栏位。
更丰富的编辑工具:你现在可以在可视化编辑器添加或编辑表单、音乐。(T112925) 还有独立的标签页提供进阶的选项,像是MIDI或Ogg音乐档。 (T114227, T113354) 当编辑运算式以及其他的区块时,在编辑时会显示错误。也有可能编辑某些类型的图表;未来将会继续添增新的工具与支援更多的类型。
在英文维基百科,可视化编辑器现在是任何有创建账户者都自动可得。偏好设定钮现在已经移到正常位置,在Special:Preferences里头。
未来的改进
不久之后,将能在编辑开始后再切换维基语法或可视化编辑器的编辑环境。 (T49779) 在此之前,你只能从可视化编辑器切换到维基语法的编辑器。双向切换的功能将能实现单一编辑标签页的设计。 (T102398) 这个开发专案将会整合编辑和编辑源代码标签页,类似于现在已经在行动版网站使用的系统。编辑标签页将会使用你上次打开的编辑器。
卷起袖子一起来
- 欢迎来可视化编辑器/回馈分享你的想法或发问。这个回馈页面是使用Flow(暂译“言流”工具)来进行讨论。
- 你可以阅读与输入韩文或日文吗?语言工程团队David Chan需要知道有哪些工具可以输入相关语言的人士协助。如果你说日文或韩文,你可以帮忙他测试这些语言的支援状况。如果你想帮忙,请见“测什么”的这篇介绍。你可以在Phabricator上回报(韩文—日文)或是在维基百科上(韩文-日文)回报。
- 本地管理员可以为你的维基站台设置自动化文献的Citoid功能。如果你需要协助,请写一篇请求信并到在Phabricator上的Citoid计划发布。如果在你的维基站台里头有重要的模板资料,也请在联络信中提及。
- 每周的工作任务优先分类聚会(task triage)是开放给志工参与的。在元维基:可视化编辑器的工作任务分类 (mw:Visual Editor/Weekly triage meetings)来学习如何加入这个聚会以及如何提报臭虫。虽然也有实体聚会,但你不需要到会议现场就能提报臭虫。只要上Phabricator并且合作跟可视化编辑器专案相关的臭虫公告。
如果您希望看到此新闻不同的语言版本,欢迎您一同协助进行翻译!订阅译者邮件列表或与我们直接联系,让我们可以在下一期准备好时通知您,谢谢!
验证码输入与内容复制问题
目前发现有两个Bug:
- 提示输入验证码,验证码输对了也无法保存条目;
- 内容无法复制、剪切。
这也许是环境问题:Windows 10(Build 10565):Edge。--小老虎3018(留言) 2015年11月10日 (二) 09:44 (UTC)
- Hello 小老虎3018
- Sorry for the delay and for writing in English, I hope it is fine for you.
- Can you give me some details concerning the validation code (that how it is translated to me)? When do you have this code? We has some issues six months ago with CAPTCHA codes for external links. Is it related?
- Copy and cut content is a real problem. Does it happen every time or on specific cases?
- For both of these problems, have you tried to edit with an other browser than Edge? Do you have these problems when you are not connected (may be due to some gadgets you may have activate)?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月14日 (一) 17:43 (UTC)
建议
当关闭页面时 会显示“您确定要放弃编辑返回浏览模式吗?”的文字(日语版同)。 建议改为“离开”等可以应对更多情况的叙述。 --Suchichi02(留言) 2015年11月28日 (六) 15:00 (UTC)
- Hi Suchichi02
- Sorry for the delay and for writing in English, I hope it is fine for you.
- The automated translation has been a little bit awkward. Do you mean there is Japanese in a message in Chinese? If yes, can you send me a screenshot?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月14日 (一) 17:59 (UTC)
- Tnanks for reply. I am not good at English, but
- I mean If I close some page in edit mode (not back to previous) it asked me make sure to back to Browse mode
- I think it can more compatible with other approaches.
- Thanks. --Suchichi02(留言) 2015年12月15日 (二) 07:15 (UTC)
- Your English is really better than my Chinese! :)
- I really want to solve your problem, and, to be sure we understand each other, I've asked for help. I hope you don't mind!
- Respectfully, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月15日 (二) 18:42 (UTC)
- He is probably suggesting that the savewarning could be changed from saying "go back to view mode", which is not always the case when the user is trying to navigate away from VE (perhaps they're clicking the history link), to something more general like "leaving the Visual Editor". Jimmy Xu 论 2015年12月15日 (二) 19:26 (UTC)
- Thank you Jimmy Xu!
- I've created a a task to discuss about that with developers.
- Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2015年12月17日 (四) 10:08 (UTC)
- Hi Suchichi02
- The message has been changed. The translation will follow soon!
- Thanks again, Trizek (WMF)(留言) 2016年1月29日 (五) 09:45 (UTC)
- He is probably suggesting that the savewarning could be changed from saying "go back to view mode", which is not always the case when the user is trying to navigate away from VE (perhaps they're clicking the history link), to something more general like "leaving the Visual Editor". Jimmy Xu 论 2015年12月15日 (二) 19:26 (UTC)
Your attention please: feedback about the visual editor will soon be centralized on www.mediawiki.org
Hello again. Please excuse the English. 请帮助翻译至您的语言. 谢谢您!
This is an update from the Editing team about redirecting local pages for feedback about the visual editor to the board on mediawiki.org. This is now technically feasible and will happen in early 2016. It applies to several wikis where such pages are inactive or have low traffic, including this wiki. We think this will help us in being more effective while processing feedback from a larger pool of wikis, not just the biggest ones. Please read our previous announcement from late August for more information; we thought we would double-check that this community is informed and agrees with the change. Please notice that if at least one community member here expressly commits to taking care of the local page, the redirect will not be necessary at this time, though. If you'd like to step up and be that person, please let me know within one week: we'll need to establish a clear process as soon as possible so that this person knows when and how to escalate issues to Phabricator or to Community Liaisons, and can receive useful tips based on our experience.
Thanks for your understanding, Elitre (WMF) 2015年12月14日 (一) 18:53 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #6—2015
你知道吗?
自从上一份电子报发布以来,视觉化编辑器团队已经修复了许多漏洞,并扩充了数学公式的工具。 其工作内容已经在Phabricator内发布。 其目前的主要工作是增加对于日文或阿拉伯文等语言的支援,以及提供对公式、图表、图片及上传的丰富媒体工具。
新改进的功能
您可以在开始编辑后于Wikitext编辑器与视觉化编辑器之间切换。 LaTeX数学公式编辑器有相当大的扩展。 (T118616) 您现在可以在更改LaTeX源代码时看见公式的改动。您也可以使用按钮来为许多符号插入正确的LaTeX源代码。
未来改进
单一编辑按钮 会将"编辑"和"编辑源代码"按钮合并为一个"编辑"按钮,就像在手机版网页里使用的系统一样。 (T102398, T58337) 最初,编辑按钮会开启您上次使用的编辑模式。若是未登入的使用者,上次的编辑选择资讯会储存在Cookie里,若是已登入使用者,则会储存在账号设定内。已登入使用者可以在偏好设定内的编辑选单里利用编辑模式:下拉式选单选择预设编辑器。
视觉化编辑器会在2016年上旬提供给下列语言维基百科的所有使用者: 阿姆哈拉语、布吉语、闽东语、克里语、曼岛语、客语、亚美尼亚语、格鲁吉亚语、旁狄希腊语、塞尔维亚-克罗地亚语、提格利尼亚语、明格列尔语、壮语以及闽南语。 (T116523) 请发表您的意见及您测试过的语言至mediawiki.org上的回报区。开发人员希望了解使用情形。也请您注明您使用的是何种电脑、网页浏览器以及键盘。
自2016年起,在许多维基百科上的视觉化编辑器之回报页面将会被重新导向至mediawiki.org。 (T92661)
测试机会
- 请测试在test2.wikipedia.org上的新系统“单一编辑按钮”。您可以在未登入时编辑,以了解在其对未登入编辑者的运作方式,或建立另一个独立的账号测试,来保留您原本账号的设定。 Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
- 记住我上次使用的编辑器、
- 如果可能,总是让我使用可视化编辑器、
- 总是让我使用源代码编辑器,以及
- 向我显示两个编辑器标签. (This is the current state for people already using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. 谢谢您!
提交编辑内容时偶尔触发bug
提交编辑后编辑能正常上传到服务器,但是有时候弹出的那个提交摘要框不会消失,页面卡死。